You obviously don’t know what you are doing because in Python, like EVERY language, there is a way to check type:

config.__class__

It seems like most frustration and hatred for a language comes from people who are new to it, which is understandable. However, saying something as flat out and false as “python sucks” is just ignorant.

Taras is right, making generic statements like you guys are doing is just making you look like idiots.

Regarding the article itself, I agree fully that PyPi needs improvement. I’d love to see it with a much improved interface and better categorization and naming conventions.

Package names can occasionally be weird in Python, but if you have ever played around with Ruby, you will know that Python is not the only language that uses some bizarre naming for their modules and methods (e.g. Rake, Gem, puts, etc… in Ruby). In fact, I find Python to have one of the cleanest and most straightforward syntaxes around.

Every language has it’s own features and quirks and it is just a matter of figuring out if the language is right for your project and then learning it’s nuances.

Cheers

I typed config and then hell nothing comes

how the hell am I supposed to know what’s the type of config ???

PYTHON SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

You guys seem to have a very hard time staying on topic. The topic is “Python’s module names suck. PyPI sucks.”

“different indention style” in 2 years I have never encountered this to be a problem, not once.

“no-one follows the PEP”, my experience has been that if people are aware of the PEP then they will use it. Not everyone knows about all of them. I find that the problem is usually caused by non-Python developers who reinvent the wheel by implementing modules that already have been implemented in the Pythonic way.

“python modules are terribly”, I’m not really sure what you mean by that, it sounds a bit general. Obviously not all Python modules are terrible. Django is not terrible, that’s an easy example. I find that quiet a few modules have at least some test coverage.

“terribly inefficient (and most are only half done and will only stay half done)” again pretty generic

I have quiet a few friends who used to write PERL every day and now do their projects in Python instead. I think mainly because of the modules that are available in Python.

“Don’t listen to Bjarne’s advice in the C++ book: “Don’t reinvent the wheel–Use libraries”. That may work in C++, but in Python, it doesn’t.”
Using libraries is a normal thing in Python. All of Zope was built on using libraries. Any Plone or Django project requires extensive use of modules and works quiet well, especially when used with ‘buildout’.

I’m sure you guys are pretty smart, but making those kind of generic statements doesn’t really bode well for your credibility.

Python sucks ass. First of all, whitespace? What the hell? Second: Total and quite disturbing lack of parentheses (And then they say it’s ‘structured’). Third: The guys in the Py won’t solve your problems because of what James said: Everyone is using some obscure version nobody uses, and they just assume that you are using Linux just because you are a programmer. Python sucks ass.

In a perfect world, everyone would be able to create their own programming language. Don’t listen to Bjarne’s advice in the C++ book: “Don’t reinvent the wheel–Use libraries”. That may work in C++, but in Python, it doesn’t.

And James is also correct about something else: It is better to reinvent the wheel, rather than pulling a cart with square-shaped wheels.

What did I learn? The community supports three or four different versions, code is terribly buggy becuase everyone uses a different indention style, no-one follows the PEP, python modules are terribly, terribly inefficient (and most are only half done and will only stay half done), the modules that actually WORK are for older versions of python that are buggy as hell, those modules that do work are overly complex in nature, requiring tons of framework and initialization code, and on top of it all, if you post to a python community or mailing list expect a helluva long wait for a reply.

Python is shit, shit, and more shit. You’d be better off inventing your own damn scripting language via C.

Sadly, half the above complaints also apply to C++ and many other languages. the only reason the top ten programming languages are as popular as they are is becuase there is no other alternative.

As for me, I’m going to go back to learning C and assembly, better to reinvent the wheel then struggling to pull a cart with square-shaped wheels (for lack of an alternative).