Aloha Kona Kids’ poor customer service


Note: this post was originally posted on March 7. I pulled it shortly after the first comment was posted, below. I’m adding an update which addresses some points made in that comment.

On January 7 I called Aloha Kona Kids to order a stroller. At that time I was told that the stroller would be in in about five weeks. The next week I received a receipt for the stroller, and that receipt says “your stroller has been ordered & will be here in approx 5 wks.”

Five weeks from January 7 is February 11.

On February 23 I called Aloha Kona Kids. Having not heard from them, I was curious to find out what happened. They did not answer their phone, so I left a message.

On February 24 I called Aloha Kona Kids twice. They did not answer their phone either time, so I left two messages.

On February 25 they called back, leaving a voicemail saying that the stroller was held up because it had to be tested for lead. This probably refers to the testing mandated by the CPSC and the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act of 2008, which set a February 10 deadline for testing products.

However, this February 10 deadline has been known about for a while. This story is dated January 8, one day after I ordered the stroller. And regardless of when they found out about it, Aloha Kona Kids surely knew about this deadline on or just before February 10 as their orders stacked up.

When did I find out about it? February 25, two weeks after this deadline and two weeks after the approximate delivery date of February 11.

I called Aloha Kona Kids back on February 27 and was told that the stroller had passed testing and was shipped. They couldn’t give me a delivery date as they hadn’t received the manifest from the shipping as of yet, but would call back the next Monday or Tuesday to let me know.

The next Wednesday, having not received the promised call, I called them back. I was told that FedEx said it shipped but the manifest they’d received didn’t have the stroller on it. However, this apparently happens frequently, and a second half of the manifest would show up. Aloha Kona Kids said they’d call back by Friday, March 6, to let me know if the stroller would show up on March 10 or March 17.

Having not received that phone call by Friday, I called them this morning. The stroller wasn’t on the manifest but it could show up March 10, 11, or 17, and they would call when it arrives.

I’m not holding my breath. Aloha Kona Kids has shown time and time again that they are extremely hesitant to call with any sort of news. When the originally promised five week deadline passed, they should have called. After I left a voicemail the first time, they should have called. After I left a voicemail for the second time, they should have called. After promising they’d call “Monday or Tuesday”, they should have called Monday or Tuesday. After promising they’d call “by Friday”, they should have called by Friday.

We only purchased this stroller from Aloha Kona Kids because they’re a local business, and keeping money within your community is a good thing. This stroller even cost $30 more than it would have cost through Amazon, and we have to pay state tax on it as well. But to pay more money to get shoddy customer service? No thanks.

Next time we need to purchase something big and expensive for our daughter, we’re skipping Aloha Kona Kids. We’ll order from Amazon instead.

Update: After my order was cancelled, I ordered the stroller from an online retailer. Here are some points I would like to make to address Philip’s comment:

  1. I don’t actually know who Philip is. I only dealt with a woman named Lori. I only spoke once with a man on the phone, and that conversation consisted primarily of him saying that Lori was out for lunch and would call back when she got back to the store (which she did).
  2. “We have contacted you several times regarding this matter.” I was only contacted after making repeated phone calls.
  3. “I told you when you ordered the stroller it would not be sent until after Feb. 10th.” The receipt dated January 7 clearly stated that the stroller would arrive at Aloha Kona Kids approximately five weeks after it was ordered, or on or around February 11. Unfortunately I’ve since recycled the receipt, or else I’d show a picture of it demonstrating that Philip’s statement is incorrect.
  4. “I gave you the option of “will call”. That is when we call you when it arrives. No deposit is required for this. You wanted to pay for it “NOW”.” Actually, when I ordered the stroller I inquired about putting down a deposit. I gave my credit card details and only found out when I received the receipt that I had been charged the full amount.
  5. “Our prices are the same as anywhere in the mainland.” For full disclosure, I ordered the BOB Sport Utility stroller (MSRP $299) and the Infant Car Seat Adapter (MSRP $59). I was charged $329.99 for the stroller and $59.99 for the adapter. Adding tax of 4.166% my total was about $406. Everywhere I looked online for the stroller had it for $299, thirty dollars cheaper than Aloha Kona Kids. I eventually ordered the stroller from Toys ‘R’ Us for $316.90 ($299 for the stroller, free shipping, handling of $14.24, tax of $12.67, and $10 off for paying with PayPal) and the adapter from REI for $67.99 ($59 for the adapter, $8.99 for shipping) for a total cost of $384.89.

Now I’m not saying that Aloha Kona Kids is a horrible place to shop. Shopping at the actual store is great. There’s loads of interesting products that you can’t get at other Big Island stores. The in-store customer service is quite good as well. However, I received poor customer service when dealing with orders over the phone. I can’t understand this drastic shift in customer service.

I very much prefer to do as much shopping at local businesses as I can. We love Bellies, Moonsprout, and the Village Toy Shop. We do the vast majority of our grocery shopping at Island Naturals, KTA, and Sack N Save. But there comes a point when being a local business isn’t enough to keep the customer satisfied. All of the businesses I’ve mentioned here have given us excellent customer service, so we continue to shop there.

And Sandy makes the point that consumers generally have to pay a little more at local businesses than at nationwide chain stores. This is completely correct. The corollary to this is that local businesses have to justify this extra expense, and they usually do so by offering unique stock and through improved customer service. In the days of a global economy where nearly everything can be ordered online, it is difficult for local businesses to offer truly unique stock, as is evidenced by this BOB stroller example. Thus the local business has to justify the extra expense through improved customer service. When that customer service is lacking, the business should not be surprised with the customer turns to another option. Why should I pay more to get frustrated with a local business?

  1. #1 by Philip on 08 March 2009 - 9:37 pm

    Brad,
    We have contacted you several times regarding this matter. I told you when you ordered the stroller it would not be sent until after Feb. 10th I did not give a reason as it really did not matter. Either they would pass or not. I gave you the option of “will call”. That is when we call you when it arrives. No deposit is required for this. You wanted to pay for it “NOW”. You said it was fine because the baby was not due for a few months so it was not a big deal. If it was you should have let me know. You were kept aware of this every step of the way. We are not in the habit of settling things this way . If you were not happy at any given time I would have given you your money back which I fully intend to do. We do not wish to do business like this. We have many items on order all the time and call the customers on a regular basis and they call us for up dates. We all are at the mercy of shipping times and most of our items come from the East Coast. They travel across the US then the ocean to Hnl then on to Hilo then to Kona. We do not add shipping costs. Last year they totaled over $50,000 dollars. Our prices are the same as anywhere in the mainland. We are sorry you are unhappy . We pride ourselves on our customer service and product knowledge. We spend hours with our customers so they do not leave not knowing what they have purchased and how to use it. This is a waste of time and energy. I hope you never disappoint anyone in your profession. I HOPE YOU ARE ABLE TO FIND THE STROLLER ELSEWHERE. Your cc will be credited right away.

  2. #2 by Sandy on 09 March 2009 - 7:47 am

    Aloha,
    I have been shopping with Aloha Kona Kids since they opened a few years back. I own a small business in Kona and understand both as a customer and as a small business owner the difficulties we face living in Hawaii. I also respect that Aloha Kona Kids goes above and beyond any other store that I’ve shopped at for my children. The products they have brought to the big island are well above any other store here. The customer service has been excellent. I went to another store to get something and the service was terrible and they did not try to help me get what I wanted. At Aloha Kona Kids they helped me get what I needed and was great! I understand that when it comes to shipping, we as small business owners we are at the mercy of the vendors and shipping companies. We have no control. We also know that without supporting our small businesses in our community, there is no community left. We do have to pay a little more for our products here in Hawaii. Shopping at amazon may work for you but amazon is not in Kona and does not support, donate or provide a service here in Kona. They do not have a face to go with a product. As a small business owner and as a loyal, happy customer of Aloha Kona Kids, I support and will continue to support the business they have here in Kona. This is what makes Hawaii unique. The family owned and operated businesses. I was born and raised in Kona and am proud to see businesses like Aloha Kona Kids here. I have shopped for all four of my children at Aloha Kona Kids and will continue to do so. Not only does Aloha Kona Kids help me with my baby product needs they also give back so generously. Every fundraiser we have ever had, Aloha Kona Kids has always donated/contributed/supported. I am proud to be from Kona because of the passion and “Aloha” that still exists amongst our current economy/society. Aloha, Sandy

  3. #3 by Audrey on 18 June 2009 - 10:39 am

    WE LOVE ALOHA KONA KIDS! We have been to the ‘other’ places receiving awful customer service, or should I say NO CUSTOMER SERVICE, and just walked out not even wanting to finish looking around. We have 6 kids of our own and only got the privilege of shopping at Aloha Kona Kids after our 6th child was born. They had everything we could ever want all in one place. The staff actually exceeded expectations on all accounts to make sure we got what we were looking for (we found a lot more too). I know the owners of Aloha Kona Kids try their hardest to do the best they can but we just have to know….’we cannot please everyone’ no matter how hard we try. We can only learn from every encounter and not dwell on the negative. I guess some people have the time and energy to dwell. Who is to say with such negativity others could do any better given the circumstances. In this day and age we all need to show a little empathy and just accept the good (with the bad) and focus that energy towards positive things. Keep up the good work ALOHA KONA KIDS. Your shop and customer service is fabulous and we look forward to shopping with you for many more years. Thank you for helping us to provide our children with the very best in products (and friendship).
    Aloha,
    Audrey and family

  4. #4 by Jessica on 22 June 2009 - 7:00 pm

    Aloha kona kids is a W O N D E R F U L store! It has great customer service. I love Aloha Kona Kids!

  5. #5 by Jessica O. on 08 April 2010 - 12:24 am

    The worst customer service on the entire Big Island. My husband & I set up a baby registry for our son’s furniture. We thought it would be easier due to our families living on the mainland. Also to save money on shipping. They NEVER returned phone calls or emails, so family & friends would call me instead. We went over to the store to speak to Lorie (the owners mother) she was not there. She did call me thou FINALLY a call back. She told me that it’s a pet pave of hers to pick up the phone when there are customers in the store. ( GREAT BUSINESS PRACTICES.) Within the conversion she bought to my attention that the stroller on my registry was not available for sale that it was a show piece. Funny because she helped us put the registry together. Then the bassinet was a floor sample. (wish we were told when we put the registry together.) In the end my husband & I decided to have the registry removed from their site, but three days later it was still up. Maybe they’ll get it right soon. I WILL NEVER RECOMMEND THEM TO ANYONE, EVER!!!!!

  6. #6 by Jessica O. on 08 April 2010 - 1:32 pm

    The worst customer service on the entire Big Island. My husband & I set up a baby registry for our son’s furniture. We thought it would be easier due to our family living on the mainland. Also to save money on shipping. They NEVER returned phone calls or emails, so family & friends would call me instead. We went over to the store to speak to Lorie (the owner’s mother) of course she was not there. She FINALLY called back. She told me that it’s a pet peeve of hers to pick up the phone while there are customers in the store. GREAT BUSINESS PRACTICE! During our conversation, she brought to my attention that the stroller on my registry was not available for sale, that it was simply a show piece. Funny because she helped us put the registry together. Then the bassinet was just a floor sample. (Wish we were informed when we put the registry together.) In the end my husband & I decided to have the registry removed from their site, but three days later it was still up. Maybe they’ll get it right soon. I WILL NEVER RECOMMEND THEM TO ANYONE, EVER!!!!!

  7. #7 by 808aipohaku on 17 July 2010 - 8:46 pm

    aye bitch shut tha fuk up u dum haole mayb dey jus nevah lyk send um to u cuz ur so fukin bitchy… stop gettin on dea case mayb jus mayb den dey wuld meet UR expectations… go fuk urself ah howzah bout dat one dont b hatin on Aloha Kona Kids jus cuz u all haole we no we no jeez cool ur jets take a chill pill hav a beer hav another baby or somethin dam.

  8. #8 by 808aipohaku on 17 July 2010 - 9:02 pm

    and what made you so salty that you had to write that whole thing why cant you just let it go. You have some real problems just because they had one problem doesnt mean anything there a great store… KEEP REP’IN IT ALOHA KONA KIDS! cheehooo
    anyways no one care about your recommendation and stop talking shit about them because i swear you keep doin dat somebody gonnah drop you.. i mean on the real so much local people LOVE aloha kona kids so back off and since you dont live on big island who da fuk u to say you wouldnt “recommend them to anyone”
    stay to tha haole side i cant say “mainland” cuz its not my mainland… IM HAWAIIAN SON! and a lot of you mainlanders dont know hawaiians. You guys think we’re stupid huh? you think we dont give about anything well we all are in distress.. u took away our culture or people almost our history, our land, our rights, over thru our queen, forcefully stole what was ours.
    And im getting off track here but anyway take your thumb out ur ass and stop talkin shit!

  9. #9 by 808aipohaku on 17 July 2010 - 9:05 pm

    did you realize dat you live on haole land, cant say “mainland” cuz its not MY mainland… but

    ALOHA KONA KIDS KEEP REP’IN IT!

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